Shares for children vs. savings account for children
Whether Savings book, savings account or piggy bank - the classic methods of saving money for children are unfortunately not particularly lucrative. Regardless of whether interest rates remain as low as they have been in recent years or even rise again, the return here will most likely be negative. Why? Because the interest of 0.1% or even 1% is "eaten away" by inflation (about 2% and higher).
On the other hand, investing money for children with shares offers many advantages over investing in a savings account. Especially due to the long investment horizon, the risk is almost negligible, but more on that later. Here is an overview of the advantages of saving with shares vs. an interest account:
Generating 7% net on average with a robo seems very unrealistic to me. What specific investments have you considered?
Hello Dobe,
7% is roughly the average historical performance of the broad Swiss equity market (even higher in the USA). For a children's portfolio with an investment horizon of +10 years, this should be considered realistic - but fees are still deducted.
Hello Eric
True Wealth has also recently introduced the option of a children's account. A comparison with Inyova would be very interesting.
Kind regards
Ashan
I'll be happy to take that up soon! Thanks for your input, Ashan. You can already find details of the True Wealth children's portfolio here.
If you are concerned with the topic of an advance inheritance for your children: Be careful, this may end badly if you have to apply for supplementary benefits yourself later.
A stay in a nursing home quickly costs Fr. 8000 to 10000 per month.
Hello, everyone,
Thank you for the interesting report. We have an ETF savings plan for our 2 children with Cash. There are no transaction fees for children/young people up to 18 and the custody account fees only start from CHF 25,000.00 (from 25k 40.- p.a.). The monthly savings amount is transferred to the Cash accounts via standing order and then invested monthly in the desired ETF(s).
It should be noted that if an ETF is invested in USD or EUR, the exchange rate discounts are not to be neglected, usually about 2% are added to the current daily rate.
Hi Yannick, What do you mean by Cash? Can you provide a link to their website? I want to check their offer.
Important topic and unfortunately one where there are few options in Switzerland. One of the good options, however, is AVADIS. There you can open separate children's accounts for as little as CHF 50.00 and choose from six different strategies (from 100% bonds to 100% shares). Total costs are between 0.56% and 0.63% depending on the strategy, which I think is very fair. This includes all costs. No custody fees, issue or redemption commissions are charged.
Thanks for this contribution Eric! Not an easy topic in Switzerland. I actually wanted to open a True Wealth account for my children a few weeks ago. At the moment, however, this is only possible for private individuals of legal age. As I am also a customer of VZ VermögensZentrum, I knocked on their door and asked whether I could open an "ETF savings" account for my children. That wasn't a problem and that's what I did. Nevertheless, I have to keep an eye on the fees. VZ is in the middle of the field. Let's see how the competition moves over the next few years. Nothing is forever 🙂
Hi Hans-Peter, yes unfortunately there is no True Wealth child account yet as well at Selma Finance. Inyova is probably the innovative pioneer here among the robos 🙂
Very interesting topic, investing for the children (whose children - yours or not). In the case of your own children, for example, you could use the child allowance (minimum 200.- / month) for this.
I currently use Postfinance Selfservice funds for this. Unfortunately, the fees are moving in the wrong direction. I have not yet been able to find a better alternative (I am excluding the topic of sustainability, although it is justified and interesting).
Postfinance Fonds Suisse: TER 0.59% (incl. distribution fee Postfinance 0.45%, so product costs would be only approx. 0.14% without).
From 01.01.2022, additional custody fees of 0.15% p.a. will be added (previously still without custody fees).
Issue fee additionally 0.5% / redemption free of charge.
Why do I do it? Because you can save it as a fund savings plan and it is convenient. Besides, the robo-advisors are not cheaper either.
Postfinance Fonds Suisse tracks the SPI and is managed by UBS. So it should be roughly the same as CH0131872431.
Very exciting, thanks for your input Hugo!
I first discovered Inyova for myself, then invested separately for my kids. I am convinced by Inyova's investments in sustainable companies.
Great, thanks for your feedback Anne 🙂