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An interesting site in itself, but does the computer seem to be confused?
- The bars are labelled several times with gross and net wages, so which is it?
- If you set your salary to the median salary, then you have to be in the upper 50%, not in the upper 23% as in the calculator. at 4200Fr. gross or net (whatever the graph is supposed to represent now) you are in the median according to your data.
Hi Mario
If you enter the median wage, you will see in the bar chart that you are exactly at the median.
However, where you lie within the income distribution is another matter. Please read the article; this is listed below in the frequency distribution chart from the FSO 🙂
Hello, Eric,
In the article you write that CHF 6,665 is the gross median salary in Switzerland.
By definition of median, this would mean that 50% of the population earn more and 50% earn less than this amount.
But if you transfer this value to the calculator, it says "You belong to the top 23 % in Switzerland".
But that can't be right... can it? Please give me a brief explanation.
Hello Max,
Thank you very much for your thoughtfulness and the very good question!
Your understanding is correct. If someone earns exactly the median wage, they are exactly at the median in the income distribution. This means that 50% of income earners earn less and 50% earn more than this amount. The median is a statistical value that indicates exactly this point in the distribution.
However, even if someone earns exactly the median wage and is therefore in the centre of the distribution, this does not mean that the income distribution is symmetrical. The distribution can be (and is) very asymmetrical.
If someone earns exactly the median wage, this person is right in the centre of the income distribution. However, this says nothing about the shape or dispersion of the distribution, especially in relation to incomes that are significantly above the median.
As this description may not help you any further, I have added another chart from the FSO at the top of the article. There you can see that the income distribution becomes very asymmetrical as salaries increase. The figure for the "Top X%" indicates this inequality.
I hope this answer and the graphic will help you 🙂
Kind regards
Eric
The statement "You belong to the top x per cent in Switzerland" clearly refers to the number of people, not the "distribution" (of salaries) mentioned in the comment response - which "can be (and is) very asymmetrical", of course.
I don't think the confusion is on Max's part.
Hello Niko,
if the median wage is entered in the calculator, it says "you belong to the top 23% in the distribution of income in Switzerland." I guess you just missed the second part of the sentence, didn't you?
If, for example, the sentence was cut off on the mobile phone or something similar, please let us know 🙂
hello,
if i want to calculate the annual salary from the median salary, do i have to calculate x12 or x13?
With kind regards
Hello Christian,
x12 gives you the annual salary.
"By the way, readers have repeatedly asked what a typical average salary is across Switzerland. This is exactly the data we are talking about here, and the median wage is the more correct figure."
Exactly not! The median wage and the average wage are two different statistical values: in the case of the average, all wages are added together and divided by the number of wage earners; in the case of the median, the statistical distribution is balanced on both sides.
Hi Claudia,
with the Median you will get the more precise information. Am I misunderstanding you, or do we already mean the same thing? 🙂
According to your information, I already belong to the middle class. Is this designation independent of the number of children requiring support?
Do I belong to the middle class with an income of CHF 90,000 regardless of whether I have 0 or 5 children (I have 3)?
Thank you very much.
Hello Manu
according to this definition of the Federal Statistical Office, yes 🙂 this definition refers to income and has nothing to do with expenses or the number of children.
Kind regards,
Eric
Hi Eric
Have you possibly swapped gross and net in the first table/mask? The statistics seem to me to be all in gross, only up there it has net.
Hi Chris
Thanks for taking a closer look and thinking along! But I haven't been able to identify any errors yet. Do you mean the FSO graph with the green and orange bars?
This correctly gives the Gross-Wage by gender and age. Or do you mean something else?
Dear greetings
Eroc
Hi Eric
Sorry, that was very badly worded. The calculator at the top is in net, but the rest of the article then only talks about gross. The calculator shows a median of 6665 CHF net, but in the paragraph below it is 6665 CHF gross. Please correct me if that is not correct 🙂
You're right! There was a twist in it. I have now added it again below so that there is no confusion 🙂
Thank you for your advice!